{"id":5167,"date":"2025-06-02T20:12:23","date_gmt":"2025-06-03T03:12:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/?p=5167"},"modified":"2025-10-12T11:00:37","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T18:00:37","slug":"immigration-legal-or-illegal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/2025\/06\/02\/immigration-legal-or-illegal\/","title":{"rendered":"Immigration: Legal or illegal?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oregonlive.com\/politics\/2025\/06\/before-he-locks-us-up-oregon-couple-will-return-to-mexico-to-avoid-trumps-deportation-threat.html\">\u2018Before he locks us up\u2019: Oregon couple will return to Mexico to avoid Trump\u2019s deportation threat &#8211; oregonlive.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a sympathetic news report implying immigration enforcement is unjust.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The family is in the U.S. illegally; he has three DUI offenses and was deported in 2009; they returned anyway in 2010. Having lived here for decades, the story implies she has not learned to speak English. 3 of the 4 kids also came to the U.S., illegally, says the report.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This article is baffling &#8211; and implies there should be no rules on immigration because it&#8217;s a sad story. Or something. The implication is that anyone who entered the U.S. illegally should be permitted to stay &#8211; even if they committed offenses and were previously deported.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This story is confusing and unclear what it is trying to accomplish.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Another<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.centraloregondaily.com\/news\/regional\/feeling-hopeless-in-custody-many-drop-claims-to-remain-in-the-us-leave-voluntarily\/article_ea05acff-0e14-5f14-b2b9-c33d1a21fdd0.html\">Feeling hopeless in custody, many drop claims to remain in the US, leave voluntarily | Oregon \/ Northwest | centraloregondaily.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I have written elsewhere, I view ICE enforcement as heavy handed and much of it unnecessary. On the other hand, there should be consequences for entering a country and staying without permission. Those consequences could vary considerably including a path to legal status after perhaps agreeing to a penalty for staying in the country without permission. Currently, our media&#8217;s approach is that if you enter the country legally on a valid visa and overstay that visa, you should be allowed to stay in the U.S. forever &#8211; thus, no consequences for staying without permission. That is, in effect, open borders, which does not seem right either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The U.S. under prior administrations permitted this situation to develop over decades. The current administration&#8217;s approach seems messy, heavy handed, and often unnecessarily cruel. There needs to be another way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>A U.S. citizen who stays in most other countries without permission is subject to being detained and\/or deported from that country.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Related stories<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/2025\/06\/04\/media-has-lost-their-minds-if-they-had-any\/\">Media: Should the U.S. have open borders? \u2013 Coldstreams Travel and Global Thinking<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/2025\/06\/11\/how-many-people-were-deported-by-prior-presidents\/\">How many people were deported by prior Presidents? \u2013 Coldstreams Travel and Global Thinking<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/2025\/06\/02\/immigration-legal-or-illegal\/\">Immigration: Legal or illegal? \u2013 Coldstreams Travel and Global Thinking<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/2025\/06\/10\/can-u-s-citizens-participate-in-political-protests-in-other-countries\/\">Can U.S. citizens participate in political protests in other countries? \u2013 Coldstreams Travel and Global Thinking<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Baffling news report eludes sympathy for couple that is in the US illegally, was previously deported but returned illegally, 3 of their 4 kids also crossed the border illegally, and he&#8217;s got 3 DUI offenses. What?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5167","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-regulatory","category-immigration"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5167","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5167"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5167\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5167"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5167"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/coldstreams.com\/travel\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5167"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}